Hair Hero
Welcome to "Hair Hero," the ultimate podcast for hairstylists seeking inspiration, knowledge, and growth.
Join your host, Ryan Weeden, founder of the 8-figure brand Masters of Balayage, as he shares his journey from being flat broke to becoming massively successful, all through the power of hair.
Each week, Ryan engages in intimate conversations with industry leaders, icons, and trendsetters, uncovering their secrets to success and sharing actionable insights.
Tune in to elevate your craft, fuel your passion, and become the hero of your own hair journey. New episodes drop every week—don't miss out!
Hair Hero
Confessions of a Celebrity Super-Stylist (w/ Jill Buck)
What does it take to go from working in a city like Las Vegas to becoming one of LA's top celebrity hairstylists? We sat down with Jill Buck, renowned for her impeccable styling at Nine Zero One salon and her transformative journey in the world of high-profile beauty. Jill shares her path to success, the trials and triumphs she faced, and the invaluable role her friend and business partner, Rihanna Capri, played in her career. We kick off with a nostalgic recount of our first meeting and a particularly memorable hair highlighting session that set the stage for a deep dive into Jill's illustrious career.
Jill's story is not just about styling hair; it's about balancing the chaotic world of celebrity work with managing a salon and nurturing a family. She talks about the unpredictable nature of her schedule and how she thrives in the dynamic environment of on-set styling compared to the high-stress atmosphere of the salon. From private jets to fashion weeks, Jill's experiences are a testament to her dedication and resilience. We discuss her gratitude for the opportunities that have allowed her to live her childhood dreams, from supporting herself to traveling the world.
But it’s not all glitz and glamour. Jill emphasizes the importance of building genuine connections and going the extra mile for clients, whether they're celebrities or regular salon-goers. She shares personal anecdotes about sacrifices made and the lessons learned about saying yes to even the smallest tasks, which often lead to big opportunities. Plus, we get a sneak peek into her latest venture—a luxury hair accessory line designed to meet the demands of high-energy events. This episode is packed with personal stories, business insights, and Jill's unwavering passion for her craft. Join us for an inspiring conversation that’s sure to leave you motivated and ready to tackle your own dreams.
Get Masters Academy's NEW LIFETIME Membership and SAVE $100!
Go to www.mobmastersacademy.com and use code MYLIFE at checkout.
Be Bold, be Brave, be You.
Thanks for you listening.
-Ryan
Follow us on Instagram:
Masters of Balayage - www.instagram.com/mastersofbalayage
Ryan Weeden - www.instagram.com/ryan.weeden
For Live Classes:
www.mastersofbalayage.com
For Professional Products:
www.mobprofessional.com
For Online Classes and Certification Programs:
www.mobmastersacademy.com
Hey everybody, I'm excited today to talk to a good friend of mine, a new friend of mine, jill Buck, a celebrity hairstylist. You've probably seen her gracing Instagram and maybe even her work in magazines, and I can't wait to pick her brain on basically how she got to where she is. It seems to be a lot of stylist's dreams to do the kind of work that she does, and I'm happy to welcome her to this show. Hello, jill.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hi Ryan, thanks for having me. Yeah, it's been fun getting to know you too, since you were on BCTV and the roles were reversed and I was helping direct you and now it's, you know, role reversal. So thanks for having me.
Speaker 1:I still remember that, when I was there and I was so nervous because that was one of my I feel like it was one of my first videos that was being recorded and you were kind enough to have me up to 901. And we were shooting this thing and it was so pro and you guys had just everything. You had the whole, I guess, waiting area, prep area, the green room, I guess you would say is so many snacks and beverages. I felt like a celebrity being there. That's right.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you remember this or saw this, but one thing I think a lot of people don't realize is when you're shooting, a video is the amount of time it takes sometimes to reposition the heat of the lights and the lamps, and I was being a little aggressive with my highlight. I was using uh, I think I was schwartz cough at the time, blonde me and we all know that, how strong that can be yeah it lifts really fast and I think I probably used 30 volume in the back yeah after about 30 minutes of foiling 30 minutes longer than I probably should have been foiling with that particular level of developer it started to like swell and drip and I was just freaking out.
Speaker 1:I'm like, um, can we stop the camera for a second? I think we got to take some of these out. The hair turned out perfect and beautiful. Glad we took it out, but that was one of those crazy hair stories.
Speaker 2:It did. It turned out beautiful. Yes, and I mean I think that's kind of it happens in real life too. Right, and it's part of the education is like when they're done, take them out. You know you don't have to let foil sit the entire process. It's okay to remove some when they're ready and keep the integrity and the health of the hair.
Speaker 1:So I think it tied in beautifully to what we were teaching that day.
Speaker 2:It worked out, great it worked out wonderfully, it did, it did.
Speaker 1:So you've been doing hair in this business for what? A couple of decades or so.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm at like 22 years now, so a while.
Speaker 1:Incredible. And where did you start out? I mean because you're in this position now where I know that you've got these high profile celebrity clients and I see you getting to do all the fun things, going behind the scenes of the shows, going to the fancy parties, and there's a little bit of jealousy when I see that when I first started doing hair or kind of doing anything, I always wanted to either be famous or hang around famous people and you get to do kind of both.
Speaker 2:I do, I do, yes, I do, and I'm super fortunate in that. So, um, without going too far back, I started in in Las Vegas, actually doing hair in Vegas, and that's where I went to school. I'm from Oregon originally, um, and, with a series of events and things, I landed there out of necessity. Um, I needed to start supporting myself right away at a young age, and I found myself in hair school along with doing beauty school or sorry, along with doing college, and then also working at the clothing store gap. So it just has been this like constant grind and hustle. I think I started at a very young age and I don't know that I've really figured out how to stop to be honest.
Speaker 2:Um, but funny enough, I met my beauty school bestie there, rihanna Capri, who owns nine zero one salon, along with Nikki Lee Um, so her and I have known each other since we were 19 years old. She back in the day was like I'm never going to own a salon. You know, you put together the business plan and we'll go with your business plan. She had to turn that in and in school or whatever. Um, but long story short, we remained friends through all the years.
Speaker 2:She went back to LA, I went to Oregon, got married, had kids and then we reconnected back in LA, um, when I had a two and a four year old at the time. So honestly, I think the biggest thing with getting into um all of that was I owe it to Rihanna, because she was like just get your butt here and let's, let's get this thing off the off the floor and go in Um. So her friendship really pushed me into the LA scene, which I was kind of like I don't know if I want to do this, this is so much work, but yeah, that's where it started was when I was 19 and just was like all right, here we go, we're doing it.
Speaker 1:And so right now, after this many years, what does your life look like? If someone's going to ask what does your month look like or your week look like, because I'm sure it's very different than most stylists, you don't go to work at a salon, probably Tuesday through Saturday, and then a couple days off.
Speaker 2:How often are you on?
Speaker 1:call how many things. At times is it last minute, like I'm curious. Sure Stress level and also the quality of life that you have Totally. Is it all worth it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, of life that you have, and is it all worth it? Yeah, yeah, it's a great, great question and it has evolved over my. So I've been in LA for, um, let's see, it's been 13 years, almost 14 years, so it has definitely evolved. You know, as some things, um, as, like my celebrity work grows, then I have to cut back in the salon a little bit, Cause I'm also a mom and a wife, so some things have to give now and then, you know, and it's really important for me to be at my kids' things and help in school and all of that Um, so I juggle it kind of that way and then I'm fortunate enough to say, you know, when TV work maybe slows down, then I can pick up some extra days in the salon. So my week is never the same, never, ever the same. My paycheck is never the same, ever, ever Out of every single year I've done hair.
Speaker 2:You know, it's like you have ballparks and things like that, but different productions pay more than others. Some pay way less. So it's a job and a career that you have to be extremely flexible, but also a very go-getter getter. You know, the doc, the jobs just don't show up. It's from kind of connections. It's from when I'm on set, right it's.
Speaker 2:You know I'm introducing myself to um kind of whoever is in charge of doing the casting that day, who is the lead uh producer on that, and so all these connections is kind of where you continue the work and so in that sense it's a hustle and it's a grind. You know, you're meeting the photographer and all those different things are a huge, huge asset to keeping this work going, and once you have those connections it sort of falls in line. But what I will say is like it's, it's a grind. But to me the salon is a grind as well, it's just in a different way, and so sometimes I actually feel like the salon is higher stress for me personally, because I am, you know, starting my day by 9am at the latest, and then it is like boom, boom, boom, you know, person in person, out person, and so that kind of stresses me out a little bit more than being on set with one client where I can really put my 100% energy and focus into what that day holds.
Speaker 2:Um, there's a little more prep work involved. You know you're doing things like storyboarding for your client based on what they've sent in, what we're working on, um. So it's kind of a hard question to answer, in the sense of no day looks the same, but I love that and so for me, it's what keeps me going in this business and in this industry it feels a little more, um, you know, not monotonous. When I'm out on set and I'm traveling to my clients, I'm doing things like that. So, after 22 years, I'm preferring to be with my client out about in the world, you know just kind of where.
Speaker 2:I'm at yeah.
Speaker 1:And you've been doing this for a while now and I'm sure you've had some experience, even though you've become seasoned with it. Some experiences where you're just probably on I don't know fancy jets and meals and backstage, and you've probably had some OMG moments where you're just like I can't believe this is my life. I would love to hear about one of those that really stands out, one of those that's just like such a core memory.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Remember every detail and you just it made everything up to that point completely worth it.
Speaker 2:Gosh, I, okay, so it sounds really cliche, but, um, honestly, every experience I am on, I just stop for a minute and just kind of be so grateful to take a deep breath and realize how fortunate I am to be in that position. You know, um, when I was young and in high school, I was, you know, trying to figure out, like everybody else, what I wanted to do, and I had three, my top three things when I was choosing my careers I wanted to be a mom, I wanted to be able to support myself and I wanted to travel. Those are my top three things. So, to be able to now tie hairstyling into that, you know I I get flown all over the world and I'm just so, so grateful for it. And I've done the private jets, I've done music videos, I've done TV, I've done, you know, covers for magazines.
Speaker 2:I feel like at this point, I've hit um other than working with like specific celebrity, like goals. Like you know, I've, I've covered and I've probably done everything you can do. Um worked um New York fashion week recently, and I'm just so, so grateful for the people that I work with too are so inspiring. Like you know, it's easy to be on one side of the TV and one side of the camera, being like, oh you know they, they didn't hit their mark today or they don't look as good or whatever. But being on the other side, I see how hard these artists work and it's amazing. They're so incredibly talented, um, and I'm so fortunate to be right there with them. Pick their brain, you know, ask them these questions of how did you get to where you get? Um. So I just feel so fortunate for every moment.
Speaker 1:Honestly, that's incredible. Who's a? Who's the most famous person you have in your phone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Okay, I feel like I get asked that a lot actually all depending on who I'm talking to. Right, so if I'm talking to, some young kid I'm going to say you know, it's like the it's Selena Gomez and the Kate Perry's, and like those, are the people I worked with before, and then the older generation I'm going to be like. Oh well, you know, I am with Rihanna and Nikki and I do Steven Tyler with them you know.
Speaker 1:so it just all depends on who you're talking to. That's so cool, yeah. When it comes to to working with all these celebrities, um, what's the demand? Like you have these, these um relationships with a lot of them and it sounds like everything's just really fits into the box.
Speaker 2:It makes you happy which is great, you know, and your comfort level.
Speaker 1:uh, how much notice did they give you? And cause they get jobs probably sometimes pretty quickly and how quickly. Do you have to react to take a job?
Speaker 2:Very quickly, very quickly, and I always tell anyone, any assistant who's ever working with me um, if you want to get into this business, you have to be a yes person and you have to. You have to change your plans. There has been so many things I've sacrificed with even, and for me. I've always had kids since I've been in LA, so for me it's not like I'm sacrificing personal time, I'm sacrificing time with my family, and and it's you do sometimes I got to miss a baseball game or sometimes I have to, you know, jump on a plane tomorrow to be on set for somebody.
Speaker 2:Um, so there's like, there's freedom in our industry, but I would say the clientele, that is like my VIP list. I drop almost everything for them. You know, like my, my, my boys come first, but, um, if it's not something like their birthday or like some milestone or something you know, then unfortunately I'm a working mom. You know I have to be there for my clients too. So I tell all my young assistants be a yes person. I don't care if you had a spa appointment scheduled, cancel it and go do this job. You know, like when stuff comes up.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, it's kind of like what you would maybe take that position at the beginning of your career, just in the salon. Anyway, it's like you almost have to say yes to everything. You're too young in the industry to have many boundaries, because you need. You need those opportunities to really start to establish yourself, and I'm sure there's going to be plenty of people that are waiting for you to say no to something so that they can take their position.
Speaker 2:There they are, and I don't. I don't know, though, if you, if you would agree with me on this though, ryan. I have found, um, there has been a good handful of opportunity I've tried to hand to people, and it might sound like something small, like hey, this producer needs her hair blown out tomorrow, and people say no to it, and I'm my jaw falls on the floor sometimes because I'm like I don't think people realize it's the producer, it's the assistant, it is kind of sometimes the smaller behind the scenes guys that have gotten me incredible work with celebrities.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like you're saying you drop everything, and I absolutely agree with you. I would, yeah, yeah, I would paint their nails if I was trying to get into that business because they're the ones that have the money. They're the ones that make the decisions. You got to go get them coffee.
Speaker 2:It's like you that's a whole different type of a pain, your dues.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's just like you have to become such a great with the connections and that's what it's all I mean. I would say probably the majority of it is actually building the connections and the skills is probably the. You know you gotta be good at what you're doing. But to get that position, it's all about your personality and you your personal brand and your personability.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. It's like you need the connection for the opportunity, but then it is 100% relies on you to walk through that door and make it happen. And talking about like painting nails, for example, I have nail polish in my hair kit because if you show up and your your clients like, shoot, I didn't get my nails done, guess what? You are gonna paint their nails so they look good on camera.
Speaker 2:You know and just like offering those extra things. They're like oh my, like I've had clients ask if I will be on their full-time payroll to be just with them. For it's like the littlest things like, oh, your phone is broken, okay, let's go to the apple store and go get you a new one. And you know, just like little things like that happen all the time Lost your charger, you don't have a speaker, whatever it is. It's like you got to have like this Mary Poppins bag a little bit.
Speaker 1:Well, and those are. I would say those are kind of like hero moments, because that's when somebody is desperate for something and it could be the green tea. I can't go on stage because I need a green tea before I go on stage, and you're there with like oh, I have your green tea right here, Two sugars, just the way you like it.
Speaker 2:Suddenly they're just like.
Speaker 1:This is my girl. She knows who I am. I'm taking her anywhere. I don't care if I'm all the way across the world, and she's coming with me.
Speaker 2:Exactly, that's exactly it. And building that, building that foundation with your client, you know it's, it's true, in the salon as well. Right, it doesn't only apply to celebrity work, but when you can really help, you know, confidently, guide your client in the salon to whether it's a hair change or bringing back the health of their hair.
Speaker 1:I mean, those are the clients that stick with you forever, you know it's the experience you're providing, you're giving them an experience, you're, you're being there to support them. Yep, so they can do what they do best, so they can relax in your chair, let go all that stress, or so they can go on and perform without having to worry about something that is kind of a mental block or something because, they didn't. Their routine didn't go as planned.
Speaker 2:Exactly yeah.
Speaker 1:So do your kids know how cool you are? You know, they just like who's Steven Tyler?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a great question. My kids keep me very humble, I will tell you that because they do. They're older, they're 14 and 16. And these these boys have benefited from my career.
Speaker 2:Like I mean I do a lot of MLB players and they're obsessed with baseball and so they have been in clubhouses, they have been to the player houses, they have been on the field. They have every autograph, you know. So, yes, they definitely, um, they understand, and they see how hard I work. And now that they're getting older, you know I'm and they see how hard I work, and now that they're getting older, you know, I'm really teaching them about the connection aspect of things.
Speaker 2:And we were actually just on the field two nights ago and, you know, I looked at my son and I was like, hey, if you want to talk to that guy, you know you need to walk up there. You're 16 now. I'm not going to do that for you. It's kind of weird and creepy, you know. And he was just kind of like admire, admiring this, this kid who was on the field doing interviews for baseball players, and he's like gosh, I wonder how he did that. And I was like go ask him. You know, I'm like we're standing on this field right now because I sent a DM to a player 10 years ago and no shame, right, dm, they joined the team. I was like, hey, welcome to LA Dodgers. I'm Jill, I work, you know here.
Speaker 2:I work with several other guys on the team. If you need your hair done, let me know. Sure enough, I've been with that player now for over 10 years, so it's just things like that that I love to kind of hope my kids can take that principle and put it into their lives too.
Speaker 1:Right, it's going after what you want.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 1:And that's what you used to do when somebody was coming, because you were already familiar with the team. Right, you already knew that that was a source of, I guess, service for you. Yeah, you had that connection already, so I love that you would send them a DM instead of waiting for them to come to you. You had that connection already, so I love that you would send them a DM instead of waiting for them to come to you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I do it all the time I still do it.
Speaker 2:If there's a celebrity I want to work with and I know that she's got something, um, especially if it's not in the city, her home city, Right? So let's say she's in salt Lake, you know, going to the Sundance film festival, I DM them and I'm just you know it's. I know it's not necessarily them checking their DMS every time, but somebody's checking them and I've 100% booked jobs that way. So I feel like there is no shame in in telling and promoting your services. You know it's like you don't want to be a stalker by any means, but just you know, and I will say I'm not very starstruck. I get asked that all the time too. Like, is there anyone you've been starstruck by? And I honestly can't say that I have. I think I get more excited about the idea of like going after something and getting it, versus who the person is, maybe. But yeah, I tell people that when I'm educating out there too, I'm like, yeah, you want something, just hit them up. What do they? And the worst thing is a no right.
Speaker 2:It's like we hear that all the time or a ghost which is just basically a no as well, which is a no as well, which shouldn't hurt your feelings, because you know, we have all these different filters on our instagram messages now, but you inspire me I'm gonna, I'm gonna reach out to um after this, to ryan reynolds and just ask him to be my friend, Cause he just seems so cool Like I got nothing to offer him, I just you know.
Speaker 1:Hey, I saw the movie. It was amazing.
Speaker 2:You're like, I mean, if you're ever in San Diego, my name's Ryan, so hey, I figured you know, go to the Ryan party.
Speaker 1:About the Ryan parties right. Yes, exactly, he's definitely going to DM you back for sure, probably Maybe, if I'm holding up his aviation gin in a picture, you know I'll be like this Definitely. Not send 17 in a row. Maybe that will be. Hey, I'm outside.
Speaker 2:Open the door.
Speaker 1:Open the gate. I'm wearing a Deadpool costume.
Speaker 2:I'm the guy out there.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:But speaking of, heroes.
Speaker 1:actually, this is a great segue In only a couple months from now you're going to be at our hero event. It's our fifth annual here in San. Diego, and I'm so excited to have you there.
Speaker 2:And you said you bring all your celebrity clients too, so that's also cool. Yes, they're going to be my models on stage.
Speaker 1:They're going to be painting your nails, and because you're the you're the one on stage that time. You're the star. I'm so excited to have you there. You've never even seen it you were like, oh, what's hero, and it's going to be so cool because I think it's going to blow your mind, even for somebody that's been on the private jets and no, I had. It's going to blow your mind, even for somebody that's been on the private jets and had all those fancy experiences.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. I am so excited, Just even the team. I'm very impressed with this crew you have coming. I'm so excited to learn from each of them. I've met several of them in passing at different things, you know, but I think you have a more original crew here coming to this and I am so excited to learn from everybody. I'm so nervous, Like I don't know, Ryan, that I deserve to be on that stage.
Speaker 1:I'm like this is going to be.
Speaker 2:you know it's okay, I'm rising to the challenge. You know I'm excited for the opportunity.
Speaker 1:That's amazing. I can't wait to hear or see what you do and hear what you have to say. Your story is fantastic and everything that you've done. I just love watching your journey.
Speaker 1:And that actually brings me to your hair accessory line which is also very unique, and what's cool is that you have, I think, celebrities that are just like hey. I'll put it in my hair and you can take a picture of it. You know your incredible bows. You do a lot of styling. Is that what inspired it? Or you're just like hey, this industry is missing something that I can provide, or is it just something that you've always been keen to want to do on your own?
Speaker 2:Yeah, great question, um, and kind of all of the above. To be honest, I have been styling for carpets and for TV and all of that for so long. Dancing with the stars I've worked on for several seasons and what initially kind of spiked the thought was I was finding hair accessories, but then I was having to literally like cut and sew them myself to get them to stay in the hair, because when somebody's dancing, if that accessory goes flying, that's on me and that's so embarrassing.
Speaker 2:Same thing with a red carpet you say goodbye to your client, typically at the house there's a, there's a handful of times I have ridden in the car with them, touch them up in the car and then they go. But same thing If that bow is sitting sideways on the red carpet like uh, you know kill me now.
Speaker 2:So it's just one of those things that I was like I think I can do this and I think I can do it better, and it has taken a long time. It is me myself and I, and then my 16 year old son who packs orders for me, but everything is handmade Like it's been. It's been a journey, but I love the business side of it, and so one I wanted to provide a higher quality, more luxury accessory that is designed by a hairstylist rather than just whoever, because we know the ins and outs of hair right when the bride is walking down the the her aisle, it's like it's gotta be perfect. You know just how it's going to stay in the hair better with how you've created the updo. So just kind of creating those different things from the hairstylist perspective.
Speaker 2:Um and two for me, now that I'm in 20 some years, uh, you know I need an exit plan, like we can't do this forever as much as I would love to. You know, I don't. I don't know that I want to be 70, you know, trying to still get my wrist to work. So it's sort of a uh, a business venture in that sense too, and what can kind of be my exit plan when I need um to kind of leave the salon full time.
Speaker 1:And how's it been going so far? I see your stuff all over the place, all over Instagram.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what is it? What is?
Speaker 1:the process been like? Is this the first venture that you've done on your own as far as like a physical product?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is First thing I've ever created, other than I've done a collaboration with a company called night Um. This was in 2019. I believe I did the collaboration with them for just a year.
Speaker 2:Um, we just made a small amount of bows Um and that's kind of how I got my foot in the door with like learning it, and I was, like you know, I think I can do this. I was shocked by my Instagram community support. I was when I launched that first one and then now, after launching the second one, I'm like, oh my gosh, these people are real, like you know sometimes Instagram just feels like I don't know, I'm just putting things out there, nobody's going to see it, because the algorithm is awful and it still feels like that.
Speaker 2:But there's been times when I do something personal and like near and dear to me. I'm like there's real people like and I just felt so supported. I wanted to do it on my own and just, you know, try it out. So it's been a grind. It is, it's no joke trying to get to sell a physical product. I'm lucky enough to have some incredible business mentors and their clients of mine that when I'm doing their hair I just pick their brain a little bit, you know, and they have told me it takes eight times. Someone's seeing a product eight times before they're willing to purchase it, and so when you think about that, I'm like sometimes I'm like it's so annoying that all I'm doing is talking about my new clips that came out or whatever. But they just said you just keep going, you just keep grinding. So it's a whole new grind for me, but I'm trying to learn it, trying to stay positive with it. So it's been fun.
Speaker 1:And when was the launch date? When did you first say hey, I got these for sale.
Speaker 2:I launched in December. In December, yeah, so how many? However many months that is, I don't know, can't count Seven-ish, seven-ish.
Speaker 1:So, then before that, when was your the idea from? Um and like to, actually, how long did it take you to make it come to market?
Speaker 2:It's about two years.
Speaker 2:Isn't that crazy to make it come to market. It's about two years, Isn't that crazy? Two years, yeah, and I have this. I I'm taking the approach of like a very I want everything to stay luxury and boutique, so I make very small quantities and once that quantity is sold out, it's sold out. So it's not even like I have one pattern and I can just re crank those out.
Speaker 2:I'm redesigning every single product and so I'm starting low, low and slow, you know, and trying not to create waste. To be honest, like I, just this can go all different ways, but fast fashion has gotten out of control and, for me personally, I can't put fast fashion on a magazine cover. It just doesn't, it would never get approved. And so I'm like I need to provide something where stylists can afford to keep these, these in their kit. Um, cause there's a couple designers out there, but their stuff is so expensive, Like I, I can't carry that inventory. You know, when I go to set cause you go to set, you need to have tons of options that you need to have tons of hair clip options and wig options and then accessories through the roof, and you know, to carry a $300 accessory is it's, it's just too much, it doesn't. It doesn't work for a stylist. So I'm trying to bridge that gap a little bit and still keep it high end and luxury. So but yeah, it's long time, it takes a long time.
Speaker 1:I totally get everything you're saying, but I feel, like a moron for a minute. What does fast fashion mean?
Speaker 2:Fast fashion is, it's the things that are kind of made for 10 cents. You know, you see it a lot on TikTok. Like a Claire's, yeah, like a Claire's. Like a claire's, yeah, like a claire's, like a it's.
Speaker 1:I mean it's all over the tiktok shop.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's amazon, you know and the reason I don't like to like touch on it is some people are very um very against it because you know there can be horrible situations happen in factories and sure right it not this is not the case for everything, Um so. I don't ever like say, don't you know, to each their own with that, and I understand then not everybody's pockets.
Speaker 1:Well, there are good, moralistic companies and there are ones that will take advantage of people to get a cheap product.
Speaker 2:Exactly, Exactly. So. I I am just making sure that for me, I know exactly who's making my bow. I FaceTime with him. You know, I know exactly where, how much everything is, where it's coming from and even the time that they've worked because, they'll submit hours and it's like I want to make sure I'm doing good when I'm creating. I'm creating a job by creating the hair accessory company.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, by creating the hair accessory company. Absolutely, and I've also kind of noticed that in a lot of your posts and the way you communicate and your message where you travel around a lot, you put yourself out there as almost like a humanitarian. You love people, all kinds of people.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Was that like a learned thing? Did your parents teach you to just be this amazing kind giving person? Where does that come from?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a great question. Um, I have definitely. You know, my mom has always been a big giver. I'm always willing to help kind of whoever, and so I would. I would imagine that's probably I just innately kind of grew up seeing her do that, but I just know at a very young probably I just innately kind of grew up seeing her do that, but I just know at a very young age I I thought I wanted to just leave the country and go work for Peace Corps or something like that, be a doctor, like it's just.
Speaker 2:I get so much joy out of helping people and I actually get a little uncomfortable when it's reversed, like when I get help, I'm a little like Ooh, like I feel bad about it. So I think it's just something I don't know if it's your genetic makeup or whatever it is but it just brings me so much joy um to to help in any way that I can. And I think that's why I've loved being a hairstylist as well, cause I'm not I'm I'm a very type a person. I'm very much have my to-do list, like I can't sketch or paint or I am not that type of a hairstylist, but I can execute. You know, like I can see something, I can execute it. I can communicate with that person and and learn what makes them feel beautiful. And I think that's my approach to doing hair Um less of like the artistic aspect of it, it which some people are so incredibly gifted at. It's just not me well, I just.
Speaker 1:I mean, you are creative, you're, you're such a nice person and it shows through in everything you do and even in interactions off of instagram. You know there's sometimes. You meet somebody in real life and you're just like you're not who you are.
Speaker 2:Yeah, in front of the camera.
Speaker 1:You are an absolute, a plus being. And I'm just so excited to have you on the stage and get to know you better.
Speaker 2:You're the best.
Speaker 1:Thank you, you got it, and I want to leave our audience wanting more, because we'll definitely have you back at some point.
Speaker 2:For sure.
Speaker 1:But I just want to thank you for being here and for sharing all the amazingness in your life.
Speaker 2:Of course. Thank you so much for having me. I'll come back anytime. Let me know what I can do to help too. I'm a helper, ryan, so whenever you need help, you let me know.
Speaker 1:Ryan Reynolds friend. Yeah, okay, I'm on it.
Speaker 2:I'm going to send him a.
Speaker 1:DM too, I got you, I got you Okay.
%20(3).png)